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Post by Kenwood on Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:14 pm

Anyone catch the trailer for this one yet?



Apparently this one has been delayed quit a few times, and people generally equate that with a shit movie, but this trailer looks awesome. It looks like what Children of Men (one long, boring chase scene) could have been.

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Re: The Road

Post by Balor on Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:02 pm

This one does look interesting...and besides, it has Viggo, who I've had a man crush on for years. Although I'm actually more excited for The Book of Eli, and the two films have a similar look to them.

Oh, and I personally didn't find Children of Men boring. By the end of it I was emotionally drained, however. One of the bleakest films I've ever seen, even with the "hopeful" ending. Not one I'll be watching again anytime soon.

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Post by Shiney on Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:21 pm

That book is fantastic....I did a review of it for ST.

The admit to having to "beef" up the story a little....but it looks very close. This book hanuted me for weeks upon completion.

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Post by Tall Tyrion on Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:55 pm

It looks OK, basically another version of The Stand. I'd watch it.

I loved Children of Men, though. Great premise!

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Post by Kenwood on Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:00 pm

Balor wrote:This one does look interesting...and besides, it has Viggo, who I've had a man crush on for years. Although I'm actually more excited for The Book of Eli, and the two films have a similar look to them.
Yes, saw that trailer, too. Couldn't remember the name of it. It looks bad-ass. A bit more action-based, though.

Oh, and I personally didn't find Children of Men boring. By the end of it I was emotionally drained, however. One of the bleakest films I've ever seen, even with the "hopeful" ending. Not one I'll be watching again anytime soon.
I felt like it failed in using the setting. I felt like it was a huge extended chase scene and little more.

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Re: The Road

Post by Shiney on Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:11 pm

It is nothing like THE STAND, Nick.....

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Post by Tall Tyrion on Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:09 am

Shiney wrote:It is nothing like THE STAND, Nick.....

??? Sure looks like it to me. Your basic Post-Apocalyptic journey story...

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Post by andrewkempster on Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:40 am

Yeah, this does look fantastic. I've not long acquired the book and intend to get through it sharpish.

Rave on the post-apocalyptic stories!

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Post by scottmitchell74 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:48 pm

Looks great. Must get the book.

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Re: The Road

Post by Kenwood on Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:33 pm

Are there any post-apocalyptic movies that have really used the setting to its advantage? I mean, to me, the setting always seems to be insignificant, like they could set the story anywhere. A post-apocalyptic setting should be as important as any character. Hell, it should be the most important character.

I'm always disappointed, though.

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Re: The Road

Post by Tall Tyrion on Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:53 pm

You should write that.

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Re: The Road

Post by Kenwood on Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:57 pm

Tall Tyrion wrote:You should write that.
Huh?

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Re: The Road

Post by kurtnewton on Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:21 pm

Tall Tyrion wrote:
Shiney wrote:It is nothing like THE STAND, Nick.....

??? Sure looks like it to me. Your basic Post-Apocalyptic journey story...

If they stay true to the book, it should have more the desperate feel of 28 Days Later than the you're in good hands with Stephen King feel of The Stand.

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Post by kurtnewton on Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:30 pm

Kenwood wrote:Are there any post-apocalyptic movies that have really used the setting to its advantage? I mean, to me, the setting always seems to be insignificant, like they could set the story anywhere. A post-apocalyptic setting should be as important as any character. Hell, it should be the most important character.

I'm always disappointed, though.

How about Road Warrior: best post-apocalypse movie ever? Even there, the crazed characters are what make the movie, not the setting.

Okay, how about Planet of the Apes? I caught the original uncut version on AMC over the summer and never realized how many shots of barren, other-worldly landscape they used in the beginning. The bizarre soundtrack also helped.

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Post by Tall Tyrion on Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:37 pm

Kenwood wrote:
Tall Tyrion wrote:You should write that.
Huh?

The story where the setting is the main character. Then you could
option it to Hollywood while they rewrote the whole thing from scratch.

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Post by Tall Tyrion on Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:42 pm

kurtnewton wrote:
Tall Tyrion wrote:
Shiney wrote:It is nothing like THE STAND, Nick.....

??? Sure looks like it to me. Your basic Post-Apocalyptic journey story...

If
they stay true to the book, it should have more the desperate feel of
28 Days Later than the you're in good hands with Stephen King feel of
The Stand.

I know what you're saying, but even 28 Days owes something to The Stand (and The Stand owes a lot to other books, Matheson's original I Am Legend for one).

A lot of those post apocalypic books have similar themes and feels. I
don't think it was ever turned into a movie, but Robert McCammon's Swan Song reminded me tremendously of The Stand.
Once you've wiped out a good majority of the population, you can't
stray too far from basic human nature, or it comes off plastic. The
best post-apocalyptic book without the apocalypse is probably Lord of the Flies.

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Re: The Road

Post by Mercedes on Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:37 pm

I first read Lord of the Flies when I was eight. I've reread that about five or six times, now. It's always a great party pleaser when I start chanting, "Kill the pig, slit its throat, spill its blood."

Incredible book. Loved The Stand, and Swan Song is on my reading list.

Ken, how would you use the area in a post-apocalypic book so that it isn't as generic?

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Post by kurtnewton on Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:40 pm

Lord of the Flies -- absolutely. The original with audio that sounds like it was recorded on a Samsung portable tape recorder.

One thing I like about the look of The Road trailer is it looks absolutely grim. Even Viggo himself looks like he stepped out of a Romero flick. It's about time American film makers get real. The Brits and Aussies and just about every other country have been making heartfelt screw-the-feel-good-ending movies for years now.

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Post by Kenwood on Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:35 pm

kurtnewton wrote:
Kenwood wrote:Are there any post-apocalyptic movies that have really used the setting to its advantage? I mean, to me, the setting always seems to be insignificant, like they could set the story anywhere. A post-apocalyptic setting should be as important as any character. Hell, it should be the most important character.

I'm always disappointed, though.

How about Road Warrior: best post-apocalypse movie ever? Even there, the crazed characters are what make the movie, not the setting.

Okay, how about Planet of the Apes? I caught the original uncut version on AMC over the summer and never realized how many shots of barren, other-worldly landscape they used in the beginning. The bizarre soundtrack also helped.
Yeah, those work. I'd even say Waterworld and The Postman work. But I'm still not sure I've ever felt the sort of dread in a movie you would expect if the real world ever came to something like that.

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Re: The Road

Post by Kenwood on Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:36 pm

Tall Tyrion wrote:
Kenwood wrote:
Tall Tyrion wrote:You should write that.
Huh?

The story where the setting is the main character. Then you could
option it to Hollywood while they rewrote the whole thing from scratch.
I actually have a great idea for a post-apocalyptic story. Not ready to write it yet, though.

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Post by Kenwood on Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:39 pm

Mercedes wrote:Ken, how would you use the area in a post-apocalypic book so that it isn't as generic?
By doing what Kurt mentions below.

kurtnewton wrote:One thing I like about the look of The Road trailer is it looks absolutely grim.
It can't just look great, you know. It has to be oppressive, to the point that the characters are just conduits that channel that directly into the viewer. Period pieces have the same problem; they're often far too clean and cheery. It doesn't feel real enough.

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Post by Shiney on Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:40 pm

I still think it unfair to compare all post apocalyptic shit against THE STAND.

In "The Road" the isolation and absolute lonliness is as much a main character as the Man and his son.

I really liked "Swan Song", and I do agree it was a shameless "I wanna do The Stand" kind of book, but it had some great ideas in it.

The new Skipp & Goodfellow novella, is post-apocalyptic...and strange as hell....

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Post by Mercedes on Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:03 pm

I'd even say Waterworld and The Postman work.

Except that they both sucked mightily.

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Post by Shiney on Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:09 pm

Agreed.

I'm going way out on a limb here...when I was a kid there was a post apocalyptic movie I loved.....called "Damnation Alley" total shitfest...


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Post by Kenwood on Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:03 pm

Mercedes wrote:
I'd even say Waterworld and The Postman work.

Except that they both sucked mightily.
Everyone disses them, but I actually like both. Waterworld is way cheesy, but both are good.

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