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Re: SK's Dark Tower

Post by cvrysen on Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:48 pm

I think the adaption just highlighted for me all the stuff I hadn't realized I didn't like about the Stand.
I'm still cautiously optimistic about a Dark Tower movie, I think Bale could do it as long as the director isn't encouraging him to overdo a lisping hiss voice. However, I'd hope for the movie series to end before the last couple of books. I think SK tainted his masterpiece by closing it via the Insomnia route rather than the Black House route.

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Post by Tall Tyrion on Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:55 pm

Kenwood wrote:I admit, I haven't read the Dark Tower series. Not sure I ever will, either; I've heard too many bad things about the last few books.

They are pretty flabby, I'll admit (and I'm a total King fanboy) but you MUST read the first four. They'll carry you through to the end.

And I think the ending ROCKED!! I'll not spoil it for anyone, but it was great, IMO.

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Post by Tall Tyrion on Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:56 pm

Kenwood wrote:Molly Ringworm.

Band name alert! lol

I can hear them now... dirty white boy punk with a large spoonful of humor. lol

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Post by Rhordain on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:07 pm

Tall Tyrion wrote:And I think the ending ROCKED!! I'll not spoil it for anyone, but it was great, IMO.

Coda or no?

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Post by Brian Sammons on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:11 pm

Balor wrote:As for The Mist...the ending really bothered me. It was such a stomach-punch after a long two hours of tension, and I didn't see it coming. Not that it's not a brilliant ending - it is. But I have absolutely no desire to ever see it again. Ever.

Thatís what I loved most about that movie, the ending. Itís refreshing to see that kind of thing every now and then. But I still like Kingís original ending better.

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Post by Shiney on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:14 pm

MOLLY RINGWORM....on tour with JOHN COUGAR CONCENTRATIONCAMP*....URETHRA FRANKLIN* and the incredible PAXCIL ROSE....




* real band names btw...

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Re: SK's Dark Tower

Post by Tall Tyrion on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:14 pm

Rhordain wrote:
Tall Tyrion wrote:And I think the ending ROCKED!! I'll not spoil it for anyone, but it was great, IMO.

Coda or no?

Depends on how you mean that. I slogged through the last few books because I had to. The stories had little or nothing to do with the quest itself, IMO, but they were palatable because King is such a good writer, even when what he is writing has not that much merit. His prose carries the day.

But the ending was... perfect. What is at the top of The Dark Tower?

I loved his answer to that. There could have been other answers, but I thought the ending was masterful.

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Post by Tall Tyrion on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:17 pm

Brian Sammons wrote:
Balor wrote:As for The Mist...the ending really bothered me. It was such a stomach-punch after a long two hours of tension, and I didn't see it coming. Not that it's not a brilliant ending - it is. But I have absolutely no desire to ever see it again. Ever.

Thatís what I loved most about that movie, the ending. Itís refreshing to see that kind of thing every now and then. But I still like Kingís original ending better.

I liked the movie ending better, if only because it threw me for a loop when I was expecting no surprise at all. It was a word for word adaptation up until that point, but then he lobbed a curve right over the plate, and I was caught looking....

I hear the filmmaker sought and received King's permission for the ending BTW...

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Post by Tall Tyrion on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:18 pm

Shiney wrote:MOLLY RINGWORM....on tour with JOHN COUGAR CONCENTRATIONCAMP*....URETHRA FRANKLIN* and the incredible PAXCIL ROSE....




* real band names btw...

Just when I thought fiction really was stranger than truth. lol

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Post by Brian Sammons on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:20 pm

Tall Tyrion wrote:I hear the filmmaker sought and received King's permission for the ending BTW...
Probably yeah, him and King seem pretty tight. And it was a fine ending, I just like the ambiguity, the unknowingness, of Kingís better.

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Post by cvrysen on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:21 pm

Oh yeah, the actual end of the DT was great. The author aside telling me I was an asshole for wanting to read it, not so good.

Haven't watched The Mist yet, assumed it was going to be awful, sounds like I might have been wrong.

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Post by Brian Sammons on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:23 pm

cvrysen wrote:Oh yeah, the actual end of the DT was great. The author aside telling me I was an asshole for wanting to read it, not so good.
lol

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Post by Tall Tyrion on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:25 pm

cvrysen wrote:The author aside telling me I was an asshole for wanting to read it, not so good.

I must have forgotten that part. lol

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Re: SK's Dark Tower

Post by Balor on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:30 pm

cvrysen wrote:Oh yeah, the actual end of the DT was great. The author aside telling me I was an asshole for wanting to read it, not so good.


I understood why he wrote that, however. From what I hear, he's been inundated in the past with angry fanmail pertaining to how his books have gone. I know it would irritate me to no end were it to happen to me - and he's at the point where he can tell his critics - yo, fuck off already - with little or no reprocussions. You know, like the Tool song (is this what you wanted, is this what you had in mind, well this is what you're getting!) Oh, to be him...

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Post by Mercedes on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:35 pm

Oh, to be him...

Maybe we can just dress like him and pretend that we're him. Could be fun!

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Re: SK's Dark Tower

Post by Balor on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:39 pm

Mercedes wrote:
Oh, to be him...

Maybe we can just dress like him and pretend that we're him. Could be fun!

No thank you. If I'm gonna go that route, I'll go Barbara Hershey.

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Re: SK's Dark Tower

Post by Tall Tyrion on Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:03 pm

You'd end up as Mother... Twisted Evil

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Re: SK's Dark Tower

Post by Kenwood on Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:25 am

Shiney wrote:MOLLY RINGWORM....on tour with JOHN COUGAR CONCENTRATIONCAMP*....URETHRA FRANKLIN* and the incredible PAXCIL ROSE....




* real band names btw...
No, no. It's JOHN COUGAR MENSTRUAL CRAMP. At least, that's what I've always said. Haha.

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Re: SK's Dark Tower

Post by Tall Tyrion on Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:31 am

I like your's better. lol

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Re: SK's Dark Tower

Post by scottmitchell74 on Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:09 am

So I've never read the Dark Tower series. I became a King fan in the 80's and the series had already begun and now it just seems to massive.

Worth my time? (I'm a King fan and have read most of the rest of his stuff)

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Post by Tall Tyrion on Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:57 am

Definitely worth your time, Scott.

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Post by Rhordain on Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:05 pm

Absolutely.

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Re: SK's Dark Tower

Post by Mercedes on Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:09 pm

I got bored about halfway through. Ho hum.

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Post by Brian Sammons on Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:12 pm

Mercedes wrote:I got bored about halfway through. Ho hum.
I know a few people that had that same experience. Me, I made it through and liked it a lot, but just like anything, itís not for everybody.

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Re: SK's Dark Tower

Post by rsmccoy on Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:38 pm

Mercedes wrote:I got bored about halfway through. Ho hum.

I couldn't get bored because this old timer walked into ye old bookstore when Gunslinger first came out all sparkly and new. I waited years for some of the books with no idea how many there would be or where it was going. The first three have a distinct feel that changes somewhat with the 4th. The last three came in a rush and were essential one story that was so long he put it in three books, but by that time he had nailed the ending and knew where he was going.

I agree that he digressed quite a bit, but it was a way to explore the characters besides Roland while tying in the larger arch that connects most of his works. The King Multiverse has at it's core, The Dark Tower.

Not sure how I would feel if I picked them up today and read them straight through, but I believe I would still love them.

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